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Wiring our Homeless

Agree, Disagree or Neutral buttons refer to the position presented in the Commentary, as to whether the reader agrees with the writers position or not.  In this case, the commentary is against wiring our homeless, based upon its being a violation of constitutional law and civil liberties.

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I have heard of implants coming into the mainstream through the program Pastor Van Impe puts out, I didn't realize that the homeless are being targeted in this country. Also, Pastor Van Impe and other pastors across our country have stated that the time will come when we will not be allowed to buy or sell unless we have one the mark of the beast which in Van Impe's opinion is an electronic tracking device implanted under our skin on the forehead or hand. Perhaps the time is now. God help us is all I have to say.
DR (F) 48
Sterling, CO
 
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I've read all about the RFID homeless program and more RFID news. The homeless are caught in the middle of RFID problems and solutions.

http://www.zombiewire.com Has more information :)


JM (M) 40
San Diego, CA
 
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Is this a fact? I am studying the RFID chip. Is this the truth?

JM (M) 41
San Diego, CA

Response: Yes.  Though it appears they are postponing the homeless tagging to later in 2005.  It is very difficult to get people to talk about this but they are implanting chips in Judicial workers in Mexico and you will find the occasional story dealing with these chips for health care.  What is important to keep in mind is the chip is not the problem. Tracking the homeless is not the problem The problem is making it mandatory, removing choice and not allowing a person to leave the program whenever they want. What the government is looking to do can be accomplished with a bracelet for less money.  Subdermal is invasive, costly and difficult to remove.  Plus the signal can be easily used to collect information the person wearing it did not agree to.  If a homeless person agrees to be monitored and has their information collected then they should be compensated like anyone else involved in Market Research.  Currently, compensation and choice are removed.  This is against the US Constitution. Most of these people are not criminals.  They are simply poor, broke and where none of us ever wants to be.
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I've been screaming for 15 years. There are going to be human implants that monitor every human, and signal body signs along with carrying your life info: Social Security Number, allergies, meds, credit cards, criminal history,  purchasing habits and more.  All my friends were saying we'd (Americans) never let them do that; I said it will seem to good to be true: no more lost children, no more forgetting your wallet. Like an alarm on my computer, if my grandparent's having a heart attack, lucky he has got his chip. The paramedics are on there way!  I think those that choose not to have an implant will die of starvation, and then there's always 600 & 606. Welcome to the beginning; once it starts it will probably go much quicker. I'm sure there are millions that would beg for it now if they could get it.

JH (M) 31
Olathe

Response: Yikes! There are positive aspects of such, yet the government has shown again and again, it abuses programs, tailoring them to its need for control.  Anonymity is a foundation of freedom. This program steals anonymity and makes humans into animals.  If they can monitor your movements, what is to stop them from using that frequency to impart pain, punishment or worse?  Smart cards a person can choose to carry can accomplish all of what you state above without implanting it beneath the skin where it cannot be removed. And would you really want anyone with the proper receiver to tune into your frequency and obtain your full financial, health, Penal and working history? Whenever a new technology develops, those seeking to harm find ways to profit. Likewise, the government job is to protect itself, not us which is why laws always take freedom, never bestow it.  Each freedom we give it, and privacy is a freedom, weakens us by transferring greater to control to those who rule rather than lead.  Rulers control through fear, restriction and consequences.  Leaders guide through empowerment.  Currently the United States is ruled.  How much more ammunition about you as an individual do you want to give these people through programs like the scenario you mention.  Do you really trust the government to act in your best interests, rather than its own?  Your intentions are admirable, but this method is ripe for abuse.

Thanks for the comments!

 
Opinion

I am living in government subsidized housing, receiving SSDI, due to hereditary kidney disease and heart disease. I have been educating myself on the affects of Power Elite gaining ever speeding control over our lives. Having this RFID chip inserted under any circumstance is frightening. I have spoke to my family and several friends who think that what is happening is for the good of the majority. I think they just do not want to do their homework. I will not accept for myself anything that is not expressed by the constitution of the United States of America. Wake up before it is too late to do anything.

MM (F) 51
Austin, Texas

Response: Good for you!  That is why we have a Constitution and why we must all take action to protect it from abuses like this.  Each erosion of our freedom serves the interests of those in power, never the people.  Your family and friends may not be affected by this idea, eventually one will come along that does affect them.  By then, it will be too late.  Keep up the fight and keep doing your homework.  An informed public is the greatest threat to power and that is why so much of this slides in under the wire and nobody hears about it.  Just remember, we the people are the ones who put the Power Elite in power.  The real power rests with us, though most people fail to realize that.  If it didn't, cover-ups, euphemisms and out right lying would not be necessary.  The power elite has convinced us they are smarter and better than us.  They're not, but they have convinced a majority of Americans to work for them, when they are supposed to be working for us. RFID's are just one example of how cocky they've become.

 
Opinion

While homeless in Eugene Oregon, they maintained that one could not stay at the shelter unless a Tuberculosis test was performed...while there I felt as if I was one steer in the herd. I can see how that form of coercion will cause many to take the mark. I also agree that if it is beginning there is will not stop there. Monitoring for the good of the people will lead to all rights being infringed upon and taken away as humans proceed to live with the illusion that our freedoms are still in place. Please tell me how I can offer support and how we the people can prevent this from becoming.


KO (M) 38
Coquille, OR, USA
 
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RFID is not a GPS system, radio towers would pick up the signal if in range, only giving a general idea of location based on the strength of the signal and its radius from the receiver (100 m south or north would be the same). Who is going to pay all these people to watch the monitors? Police and social workers are in short supply and surely have better things to do......also just because someone is near a scene of a crime is a far hurdle to proving guilt. It can't tell if they are buying drugs or milk and how they're paying for their alcohol. It might be useful for people who have serious medical problems like a bracelet.

RV (M) 40
Phoenix, AZ, USA

Response: True, the RFID's used in consumer products are not GPS systems, but the information on this program shows it to have some type of tracking, even if satellites are not involved. You'll have to ask Homeland Security and the other government acronyms about who will pay for it, but it's a fair bet the American taxpayers:)  The RFID's in Japan do show what browsers look at and what they buy.  It's an electronic device.  How they program it will be seen. 

 
Opinion

Our gun laws started the same way. First it bans concealed arms, then it went on to automatics. Now we have laws if you have any kind of past criminal history you can't even own a gun, period. First it will be the homeless, then it will move on to anybody on welfare. After that on to prisons then anybody with a criminal history.

MT (Male) 39
Holt Summit, MO

 

April Fool ?
Have you noticed the date of the press report?

HA (M) 62
Helsinki, Finland

 

Response:
Yes, we thought so at first too. United Press International broke the story on April 3, 2004 so we confirmed it through additional sources; this is legit.  Scary, straight out of the Twilight Zone, but legit.

However the Government is now back tracking to say it is voluntary...though they cannot explain why it needs to be inserted under the skin rather than on a removable bracelet if it is in fact voluntary. And as the majority of those who are homeless have mental health issues that would exempt them from entering into a contract, (our laws require someone be of sound mind to enter into any agreement, otherwise it is nullified) the government hasn't quite explained that aspect either.

 

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