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![]() Censorship does not enter into the debate. No one is limiting anyone's speech. Any professor can say or write anything they want. They just can't do it with taxpayer money. Passing a law that says you cannot say something that is true, correct and documented because we don't like it and if you do, we'll take your funding away? How is that not censorship? We could have called it blackmail. Is that a better term? Do you see the distinction? I
can say anything I want, but if told my boss he was stupid, he'd probably
fire me. Does that mean he's censoring me? Is he violating the constitution? Actually, let's address that because that excuse has been over-used and it is a complete lie. Israel is not a democracy. Nor is the United States. The US is a Representative, Socialistic, Republic currently bordering (over the last 3 years and prior to 1964) on Fascism. Israel is a Republic/Socialistic/Theocratic/Military government if you are white and Jewish. It is a Fascist/Military/Theocracy if you are not Jewish, (Christian or Muslim) or an Arab, (Sephardic) Jew. As far as government structures, a democracy requires equal treatment of all and generally is not a good government system because it requires all people be accountable and equally informed, (How many people do you know that are actually informed on everything? It is impossible). It rules by majority and history shows this leads to anarchy. This is why the United States is structured as a Republic, not a democracy which utilizes democratic principles via representation. Israel can never be a democracy as long as it uses a faith as its identity. It is impossible for a theocracy and a democracy to co-exist. By its very nature, a theocracy excludes and a democracy requires inclusion. It can be a republic, but it will always be fascist until all citizens under its control have equal rights and either a free Palestinian and Israeli state are formed, or Israel ceases to be "Jewish" and becomes one state with equal rights for all and no state sanctioned religion as was required in 1948. Israel violated, the charters of sovereignty creating Israel with full citizenship to the indigent Christian, Arab and Jewish populations from day one, which is why we have the problems in the Middle East today. Israeli historians are finally acknowledging this. Americans still believe the fairy tale. It is this fairy tale HR3077 deems to protect. In actuality, Iraq will be the Middle East's only "democracy"...sort of, (the US is dictating too much for it to be a true republic. We're already censoring its press and dictating who can run for office). AND Iraq will have something Israel has never had, a Constitution. No, Israel does not, and has never had a Constitution. Israel is not and has never been a democracy. Remember the main point -
this regulates programs which receive not just standard taxpayer money, but
a special fund set up just for international statesmanship. There's no
censorship, just a zealous stewardship of taxpayer funds (which many
academics resent). Not when that regulation is a violation of the First Amendment and we're dealing with Adults, not children. You're missing the point:) Federal dollars should not be used to destroy rights in colleges. Children do not attend college; this isn't the same as K-12 where children do need to be protected from some information they are not mature enough to understand. It should not matter what we say about other countries in this country as long as it is the truth and can be backed up with documentation. Universities are about debate and learning. When rules are imposed, the learning is skewed. Just because the administration does not like what people are saying does not mean it is anti-American. This country is about dissention and challenge. Those they are attacking are not speaking lies. They teach truth and provide information Israel would prefer remain buried. This time it is Israel. Next time it could be the US. The Republican National Committee is currently pressing the Federal Election Commission ("FEC") to issue new rules that will cripple groups that dare to communicate with the public in any way critical of President Bush or members of Congress. Now they want to prevent Americans from criticizing our own government by removing tax-exempt status if an organization dares? Can you see how letting one little thing like HR3077 get through leads to others? The FEC thing just happened this week. With the new ruling, non-profits including PBS would be prevented from presenting anything our politicians didn't like. Without restrictions, you as a citizen have the ability to say, "Hey, this is BS Prof and explain your reasoning!" In a free society, the people have the power to decide what we believe. Do you really want the government doing that for you? Aren't you a better judge of what you should and shouldn't believe? When we as a people allow the government to dictate anything controversial, we set a precedence for future restrictions. Laws and restrictions take freedom, they do not protect it. Each law limits our ability to think and act for ourselves. This is about getting to the truth so we as a nation can make decisions based on the full story, not just what people want us to know. Good arguments and great points. Thanks for your comments EH! EH
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(M) 50 Actually, the decision not to name Israel in the article was strategic, not fear and there are enough clues in the article for people well educated on both sides of the Middle East issue that the country orchestrating this is clear. Most Americans have a knee-jerk reaction to any mention of Israel. We've been so thoroughly conditioned and brainwashed into believing Israel = good; Arab, Palestinian = bad; Criticize Israel, Zionism (which is fascism in its purist form and needs to be criticized) or Judaism/Talmudic law = anti-Semitic. Whether policies, actions or statements are Anti-Christian, (which the Talmud and Talmudic law are) or Anti-Muslim does not matter. Challenge them and you're anti-Semitic. Today even the New Testament or following the Christian/Islamic values as defined by Jesus Christ (both Christianity and Islam follow the teachings of Christ) are labeled anti-Semitic. These subconscious messages immediately prejudice people and block the real issues, and this is too important for people to tune-out because of effective PR. This issue is about stripping Americans of our First Amendment rights. Which country or the faith of that country is irrelevant. Israel is not mentioned in the article because we wanted people to consider the issue without regards to the specifics of the country lobbying the attack on our Constitution. This would be the same issue if Canada, Germany or France were lobbying for HR3077. |
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Reader from We'll verify Reed & Chafee's voting on this issue with their offices and if this is the case, we'll add them on a list of "First Amendment Heroes" The American people should know who is looking out for them and we appreciate your heads up on this. Senator Jack Reed's Statement (R) Rhode Island: "As you know, H.R. 3077 would reauthorize Title VI of the Higher Education Act. Title VI funds a variety of grants to institutions of higher education and related entities to enhance instruction in foreign language and area studies. The bill also would establish an International Education Advisory Board to counsel Congress and the Secretary on Title VI programs in relation to national needs with respect to homeland security, international education, international affairs, and foreign language training. I have concerns about the potential of the International Education Advisory Board impinging on the academic freedom of institutions of higher education. This bill passed the House on October 21, 2003 and has been referred to the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Committee, on which I serve. Please be assured that I will keep your views on this bill in mind as the Committee and the full Senate consider the reauthorization of the Higher Education Act during the 108th Congress". -Senator Jack Reed We are still waiting to hear from the office of Senator Lincoln Chafee, (D) Rhode Island |
![]() I read HR 3077 and could not find a reference that you interpret in your article as, "Its grants, up to $500,000 are used to train experts for national security, government service and educate the public on international affairs. This act advocates a seven-member advisory board, similar to a Warren Commission with the power to recommend cutting federal funding for colleges and universities that are viewed as harboring academic critics of the foreign power lobbying this resolution."
Pennsylvania Response
The act itself is being
soft-peddled to prevent scrutiny. The grants come from the previous acts
setting up special funding for Education in Foreign Countries, Cultures
and Politics. This type of mirage is common practice for Israel. The
only curriculum being targeted is specifically the Middle East the only
country trying to change what we teach is Israel. Based upon their
previous behavior in academics for those of us covering the Middle East
and US Policies, the intention is clear.
The fact that a foreign country can lobby to create any type of law dictating our curriculum, how or what we learn, regardless of what country it is or its intentions, violates the First Amendment. The Israeli Lobby has been attacking a number of Professors at our Ivy League and other schools teaching Middle East issues. Our First Amendment remains the only thing standing in their way. Their assault has been to categorize mentions of the Apartheid Wall, their War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity or anything that does not fit with their image here in the United States as anti-Semitic, which it is not. It is the truth. It just isn't very flattering.
I can go into numerous examples of their
terrorizing of professors, politicians and journalist who print what they
don't want, (this results in death threats, public defamation and in the
case of Congressman Issa out of California, his offices were bombed by the
Jewish Defense League in 2001 for simply suggesting we consider a more
balanced approach to our policies in the Middle East) but there is a much
better, concise source: former Congressman Paul Findley's book "They Dare to
Speak Out". It's a fast read and it will shock you. I can tell you based
upon personal experience and personally knowing three of the people he
profiles, it is true, correct and not an exaggeration. In this book he has
an entire chapter dedicated to professors of Political Science,
International Law and History who have been attacked by the Israeli lobby
for presenting facts on record with the United Nations, Amnesty
International, the Red Cross and hundreds of agencies around the world.
Israel is the only country lobbying HR 3077. Since they signed a political
pact with India, India is now backing them up but not lobbying. If you'd
like another example, an article we published last month by Rachel Ann
Haart illustrates how the attacks are done In answer to your question, the real question is: why are we allowing any country outside of the US to decide what is okay to say, teach or write in the United States about this, or anything. The issue would be the same if Britain decided it didn't like the way we portray them in the Revolutionary War. Why are we creating resolutions that specifically curtail our First Amendment Rights? This is why you need to tell your Senators no. When outside forces begin dictating what we can learn and how, (even if it's about how to bake a cake), we no longer have freedom of speech. Given our Constitution, this should never have been a consideration in the first place. The fact that it is, shows the power this lobby has over our congress. That power is real and it's not in our best interest as a nation. |
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California Response: Zionism and Israel would not be a problem in the United States if the United States acted in its own best interests. We can't blame Israel for doing what is in its best interests. That is their right and it is what any nation should be doing. Besides, blaming and playing the victim are not American values. We allow them to do this; ergo, the fault is with us. The only way their influence and desires will cease to take us in directions not in our best interests, whether it be a House Resolution or a War on Terror, is when we as a nation, starting with our congress, senate and executive offices, begin acting under the premise: What is the best decision for the United States and our people? Since 1973 the question has been, "What is in Israel's best interests and how much of it can we get Americans to pay for?" 1.8 Trillion dollars later and at a rate of $10 Million dollars a day of your tax dollars, we are still placing their interests before our own. If we weren't, HR 3077 would never have been considered and we'd be using that money for a National Healthcare System, extended education or major tax cuts for the average American: These are the kinds of questions America should be asking and our representatives should be considering. Hating people because of what they are only breeds more hate. The fact is Zionist have the right to be Zionists and if we as a nation are dumb enough to let them use us; that isn't their fault, that is ours. What we forget is we have the right to say, no thank you and not support it. And frankly if we were not supporting it, the terror wouldn't be happening. The money to continue it would no longer be there and all parties involved would be forced to find a solution all can live with. The root of this problem starts at home and only Americans have the ability to turn it around. It's called voting. Spain voted out their representatives who failed to act in Spain's best interests. So can we. |
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